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LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per redSNAPER	13 set 2004

LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO es q son todos NAZIS, NO ANARKISTAS.
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Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per x	13 set 2004
Si us plau, no contesteu a aquest TROLL. Por favor, no contestéis a este TROLL. Bonvolu, ne respondu al cxi tiu TROLLO.

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per NO MORE TROLLS	13 set 2004
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Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per What's the problem?	13 set 2004
Que una persona sea anarquista o nazi dependerá de sus acciones. Si sus acciones van encaminadas a socavar las relaciones que hacen que unas personas queden sometidas a otras, se podrá decir que tiene un talante y una sensibilidad anarquista. Si no es así, si sus acciones van encaminadas a justificar relaciones de dominio, será más bien un autoritario. Las etiquetas es lo de menos. Sabemos ya bastante que el continente no hace el contenido. Que hay muchísimas personas que se autodenominan de "izquierdas", "socialistas" o "anarquistas" y sus acciones no son nada de "izquierdas", "socialistas" o "anarquistas". En cambio, hay gente que no va con ninguna bandera en procesión y, sin embargo, tienen un comportamiento verdaderamente antiautoritario. En fin, nada nuevo. Que "el hábito no hace el monje". Que hay que analizar lo que las personas verdaderamente hacen y no dejarse guiar por los tópicos, ideas preestablecidas y consignas que utilizan.

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per salta!	13 set 2004
NATIONAL-ANARCHISM: DEFINING THE FUTURE Q. Is National-Anarchism a form of nationalism? A. We do not support nationalism in the sense that we uphold the concept of the nation-state. In a more realistic sense, however, those of us in the British Isles have Indo-European origins and therefore form part of a wider ethnic heritage that includes not only Europe but also countries like Iran, Afghanistan, India and Tibet. Indeed, the ‘national’ component of the term National-Anarchism can be interpreted in much broader terms and certainly not by the limited parochial attitudes of nineteenth-century imperialism. When we speak of nationhood, therefore, we are referring to its tribal and organic implications. So our concept of the word ‘national’ relates, not to territory, but to the inherent folk-identity which is a natural facet within all peoples. National-Anarchism can be adopted by various races around the world, but whilst we believe that multi-racial communities can be anarchistic, they can never be fully 'national' in a truly organic sense. Q. Do you support a Eurasian superstate? A. No. We believe in political, social and economic decentralisation. In other words, we wish to see a positive downward trend whereby all bureaucratic concepts such as the UN, NATO, the EU, the World Bank and even nation-states like England and Germany are eradicated and consequently replaced by autonomous village-communities. However, given that National-Anarchist communities will always be regarded by the Establishment as some kind of fifth column - and, in all likelihood, infiltrated and crushed - it may be necessary to migrate to areas which currently lie completely outside of Western jurisdiction. On the other hand, of course, we believe that it is also necessary to hasten the demise of the West and therefore still require a presence on the fringes of society. In the words of Friedrich Nietzsche: 'That which is falling must also be pushed'. Meanwhile, in the inimitable words of Mikhail Bakunin: 'To destroy is also a creative urge'. Q. Are National-Anarchists racist? A. Certainly not. Our vision comes from a love of our own kind and a genuine respect for others. This stance is totally at odds with racial hatred and is fundamentally based upon the realities of self-determination for all peoples. Furthermore, we do not subscribe to a white supremacist agenda or wish to enforce our worldview on others. National-Anarchists are racial separatists and wish to build links with like-minded individuals and organisations, regardless of their racial or ethnic background. Racial miscegenation, however, is a very serious threat and endangers mankind in the same way that hunting and pollution threaten both the environment and the animal kingdom. Together with our comrades around the world, we are seeking to defend our basic identity from the ravages of rootless cosmopolitanism. Q. Do you plan to outlaw mixed-race relationships? A. Not at all. These are issues which must be decided by the individuals and communities concerned, although we must point out that multi-racialism and National-Anarchism are incompatible. Q. But what if people disagree with your ideas? A. Fine. We have no problem with that. As long as they do not prevent us from occupying our own space and land in which to live according to our own principles and beliefs. Attempting to interfere with our way of life or seeking to prevent us from living in our own anarchistic communities is fascist and authoritarian. We do not wish to persecute others or bend them to our will. But if our opponents are not prepared to respect our freedom and establish their own communities elsewhere, we will not hesitate to defend ourselves accordingly. On the other hand, we are free-spirited individuals and support the aspirations of all freedom-loving peoples worldwide. Q. Would you support Fascists or Marxists, for example, if they were trying to establish their own autonomous communities? It is possible to support the wider concepts of decentralisation and self-determination as a tactic against globalisation, even if we still believe that National-Anarchism is a more pure and distinct _expression of these concepts. So, in other words, we don't believe that Marxists or Fascists can be National-Anarchist. If, on the other hand, they want to run their own little areas in which they can try to live according to their own principles and values that's entirely up to them and they should be free to do so. But regarding how we view other communities in general, we must first consider what is best for ourselves. And that, of course, naturally leads to a situation in which we often have to forge alliances in order to defeat a common enemy. That's why we can support decentralisation in very general terms, even if National-Anarchism itself is a unique form of decentralisation in its own right. The battle for the future, however, will be fought between the Centralists and the Decentralists. Q. How do National-Anarchists intend to pursue their objectives? A. International Capitalism depends on the constant acquisition of resources to maintain and perpetuate its own survival. In years to come, however, it will slowly disintegrate in the same way that the Roman Empire - which also specialised in expansionism and control of the periphery - finally collapsed under the weight of its own unbridled greed and ruthless ambition. Therefore we must hasten its demise by encouraging revolution on the periphery and, thus, depriving the urban centres of their valuable resources. Once we help empower the exploited peoples in the so-called Third World, we can finally slice off the tentacles of Capitalism one by one until the very core of political and economic power is completely eradicated. Destroy from within and create from without, that is the very essence of National-Anarchism. Q. But the centres of power are mainly in Europe and North America, so what will become of the West? A. Who cares! The whole concept of Western civilisation is forged on exploitation and greed. Moreover, it is an historical process which has taken man away from his primordial condition and led to the enrichment of the few at the expense of the many. Q. But surely this process will lead to technological regression? A. Of course. National-Anarchists are not opposed to technology per se - or at least those forms which do not harm the environment - but it remains a fact that once the internationalist system begins to wither away and people start to return to a more natural lifestyle, the factories will stand idle and therefore nobody will be on hand to produce computers, televisions and other luxury items. People will be forced to live without cars and supermarkets, chat shows and telephones, vibrators and central heating. Eventually this will lead to a more leisurely way of life, simply because on average hunter-gatherers work something like two hours a day in order to satisfy their basic needs. But it would be wrong to suppose that National-Anarchism is deliberately advocating a more primitivist lifestyle, on the contrary, we merely predict that it is inevitable and that people must face up to it. It remains to be seen just how far this process will go. Q. What is the way forward for National-Anarchists? A. We shall continue to forge links with other opponents of globalisation in the hope that, eventually, we will become one of the makers and shapers of the developing anti-Capitalist movement. So in this regard we extend the hand of friendship and co-operation to all like-minded peoples both in Europe and around the world. People must forget their prejudices and pre-conceptions and join us in the quest for justice and liberation. Terra Firma, BM Box LCRN, London WC1N 3XX, England.

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per CAT	13 set 2004
"What's the problem" té raó! Tot dpèn de les etiquetes! Ni el PP és popular Ni el PSOE Socialista Ni IU està unida etc...

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per ostia!	13 set 2004
En canvi el món que planteja Salta! fa por. Un món de pobles zombis aïllats racialment -tot lo horitzontals que vulguis, pero...- per tal de no pertorbar les pureses genètiques. A mi, personalment, un món així em sembla un pur experiment, un videojoc, Matrix, una pel·lícula paranoicia...una forma de primitivisme de laboratori, construït a consciència i que, per tant, desvirtua els trets més comuns de l'anarquisme (i inclús del comunisme i del marxisme) que ens diu el món està dividit només per factors econòmics, i no pas racials. En una altre paraula: tots els essers humans som iguals, tenim el mateix mapa genètic i obrem gairebé igual a tot arreu. Unim-nos d'una puta vegada, cony!!! La unitat no és la homogeneització, ni uniformització!!! El mestissatge és sempre parcial, i va en contra de la homogeneítzació!!! Només la ignorancia homogeneitza!!! Llàstima pels nacional-anarquistes, però la natura del esser humà sigui ben diferent. I els estats, tot i ser eines perfeccionables, siguin necessaris per tantes coses, sobretot com a eina imprescindible per frenar el neoliberalisme més agressiu i uniformitzador.

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per ---	13 set 2004
Els quàquers son nacional-anarquistes, no? Ostia qui món tan atractiu i lliure els dels quàquers!!!

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per x	13 set 2004
joderrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, que el que ha empezado es un TROLL.... no le sigáis el rollo.... joderrrrrrrrrr...

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per REVELACIONES	13 set 2004
aNARKISTA RIMA CON FASCISTA........¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per un0kesaburre	13 set 2004
revelaciones no seas KAPULLO i te insulto pq te lo mereces x un comentario tan tonto (anarkista,socialista,capitalista,comunista..) todos estos tb pueden rimar. esto de los ANARKO-NAZIS solo son 4 payasos k son nazis i se han inventado un sinfin d xorradas solo para confundir el anarkismo con el racismo, los unikos nazis anarkistas k existen son los kostrosos

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per un0kesaburre	13 set 2004
revelaciones no seas KAPULLO i te insulto pq te lo mereces x un comentario tan tonto (anarkista,socialista,capitalista,comunista..) todos estos tb pueden rimar. esto de los ANARKO-NAZIS solo son 4 payasos k son nazis i se han inventado un sinfin d xorradas solo para confundir el anarkismo con el racismo, los unikos nazis anarkistas k existen son los kostrosos

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per una-que-passava	13 set 2004
el post més llest ha segut el segón. Llàstima que ninguna ha fet cas...

Re: LA MISERIA DEL NAZI-ANARQUISMO
per no-revelations	14 set 2004
A ver kastron ke no tienes NI puta idea